Wednesday, July 29, 2009

More On The ACIP Meeting

 

 

# 3561

 

For a report on the ACIP committee recommendations read The ACIP Committee Recommendations

 

 

If you heard a collective sigh of relief today, it came from the 34% of the American population with a BMI (Body Mass Index) of greater than 30, which up until today had been cited as a possible risk factor for complications from the novel H1N1 virus.

 

obesity

Although it is a bit blurry (screen capture from the web broadcast) the slide above shows that the incidence of hospitalizations among those listed as obese by their BMI was practically the same as their prevalence in society.

 

Roughly 34% of Americans are obese, and roughly 38% of those hospitalized met that criteria.    While 6% are morbidly obese (BMI > 40), they only made up 7% of the hospitalized cases.


According to Dr. Anne Schuchat, the jury is still out on the morbidly obese, but right now there is no clear evidence that obesity – without some comorbid condition like diabetes – lends itself to a greater risk of complications from this flu.

 

Also, from the comments made during the ACIP meeting today, and those made by Dr. Anne Schuchat during the CDC conference call this afternoon, there obviously isn’t a lot of enthusiasm for using adjuvanted vaccines here in the United States.

 

The recommendations today out of the ACIP meeting were specifically for unadjuvanted vaccines.

 

Adjuvants are a somewhat controversial additive that are sometimes used to increase the immune response to a vaccine.  They are not currently licensed for inclusion in flu vaccines here in the US, and have only seen limited use in Europe for those over 65.  

 

They could be used if the HHS decided to go with an EUA (Emergency Use Authorization), but right now, there doesn’t seem to be much support for that idea.   

 

The HHS has stockpiled enough for millions of doses of vaccine, but the plans right now, according to Dr. Schuchat, are not to need them.

 

If the standard 15 µg dose should prove not to provoke an adequate immune response, or if the virus should antigenically drift away from the vaccine, an adjuvant might provoke a stronger, or broader immune response.  

 

Under those scenarios, a decision would have to be made weighing the potential (and largely unknown) risks versus the benefits.   There is scant data on the use of adjuvants for young adults and children, and the HHS obviously views adjuvants as a complication they’d rather not have to deal with.

 

Diplomatically, refusing to use adjuvants may prove a bit stickier, since using them could reduce the amount of antigen that Americans (who have large order for vaccine in place) would need.   That would, in turn, free up more antigen to make vaccine for other countries.

 

It remains to be seen how that little drama will play out.

 

So Adjuvants, at least for now, are not anticipated to be used here in the US, but they remain on the table.

 

It was pretty obvious, watching today’s telecast, that the panelists all wished they had more time, and more scientific data, with which to make their recommendations. 

 

The fall flu season is coming on like a freight train, and there simply isn’t enough time to conduct the type of studies and deliberations they would, no doubt, prefer. 

 

Clinical trials with a few hundred test subjects, however, really aren’t designed to pick up on a those rare – 1 in 100,000 – serious side effects. 

 

You generally only find those after a few million shots are given and well into the flu season.


Influenza vaccines generally have a pretty good record of safety.  Most side effects are minor, and self limiting.   A sore arm, a mild fever, maybe some body aches.   But gone in 24-48 hours.

 

But occasionally a serious side effect can occur.  Even though the incidence is very low, when you start giving hundreds of millions of shots, the number of adverse reactions will mount.

 

Some `incidents’ reported by vaccine recipients may not even be caused by the vaccine, but will evoke suspicion nonetheless.  I expect the press to be all over those, even before any causal link is established.

 

The good news here is, given that the over-65 crowd will be the last to receive the vaccine, the `noise’ that their less stable health conditions would interject shouldn’t be a factor.

 

But in the back of the minds of everyone making vaccine decisions, I’m sure, are the memories of 1976, and the worry that a new vaccine could produce a similar level of side effects. 

 

It may not be likely . . .but it is possible.  

 

The enormity of what the CDC, HHS, and public health departments around the country are about to undertake is absolutely staggering. There are a great many things that can go wrong, and undoubtedly, despite their best efforts . . . some things will go wrong.  

 

We need to accept that there are going to be bumps along the way, that not everything is going to come off as planned, and try to learn from these `challenges’ as best we can.

 

The lessons we learn now could prove invaluable if another, more severe pandemic should come down the pike in the years to come.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Mike,

You may have missed my question under your previous post on the pneumovax as an adjunct measure for this H1N1. Do you have any knowledge about this, or did I just dream it?

Thanks,
Paul.

FLA_MEDIC said...

Paul,

You'll find the CDC's Pneumovax recommendations at

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/guidance/ppsv_h1n1.htm


Basically, everyone over 65, all smokers, or those aged 2-64 with the underlying risk factors for influenza complications, smokers, and asthmatics.

Pregnant women are not mentioned.

You'll find my blog on it at:

http://afludiary.blogspot.com/2009/06/cdc-issues-pneumococcal-vaccine.html


The Revere's comments on the subject are at:

http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/06/pneumococcal_vaccine.php




Hope this helps.

h1n1_watcher said...

Not directly related to this article's topic but I would like to point out some very interesting graphs published within the UK NHS weekly flu report at pages 3,4,5 of the following pdf:

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2009/07July/Documents/CMOpandemicinfluenzaweeklybriefing230709.pdf

It puts the course of the current pandmic wave into comparison with both the 1999/2000 bad seasonal flu wave (page 3) and, very interstingly, with the sucessive waves of the 1968/69 flu pandemic as well (pages 4,5).

These graphs are exactly what I've been waiting for a long time because they really put into perspective the shape and magnitude of the current pandemic wave ... However, as can be seen clearly in the graphs too, we are really only at the very beginning of the pandmic and it will be instructive to follow the further weekly updates of the graphs over the next months.

P.S.: what makes these graphs especially informative is that they are not based on "case counts" (that are not reliable because of their depending on testing policies) but on "ILI" flu surveillance data that are much more reliant during "mature" phases of an epidemic/pandmic.

P.P.S.: The only thing missing for a perfect pandemic monitoring would be an accompanying graph showing the percentage of hospitalizations / fatal cases (possibly by age group) as a measue of relative severity ...

phytosleuth said...

Thanks, thanks, Fla_Medic! The conspiracy folks are freaking people out and I'm sending some worried folks your way to set the record straight.

Thanks, too h1n1_watcher. I agree.

Anonymous said...

Mike,

Thank you so much, for taking the time to research my question and present me with such valuable, spot-on links. I have a pregnant daughter-in-law, due in October, and what I got from your research is exactly what I needed for passing on advice to her.

Your the Greatest!
Paul.

Anonymous said...

On the subject of adjuvants, does the Pneumovax 23 contain any adjuvants, such as Squalene?

FLA_MEDIC said...

Anonymous,

Alum (aluminum phosphate) has been used in a number of vaccines for more than 6 decades as an adjuvant.


The Prevnar 7 vaccine for children contains 0.125 mg aluminum phosphate adjuvant. PCV7 (Prevnar®) does not contain thimerosal or any other preservative.

Pneumococcal 23-valent Vaccine (PPV23; Pneumovax(R) 23) does not contain thimerosal, or an adjuvant - but does contain phenol as a preservative.


Source of information: Medscape

http://bit.ly/4rGE45