Wednesday, November 19, 2025

Open the pod bay doors, HAL (Arguing with A.I.)

 

#18,952

As anyone who has suffered through the tortured syntax of this blog has already deduced; I don't use A.I. to write. In fact, I don't use `writing aids' of any kind, except spell check.  

While some of my reluctance to adopt these tools may stem from being of a certain age (I was born into an analog, early-1950's, vacuum tube world),  I've often been an early adopter of technology.  

I bought my first personal computer in 1979 (an Apple II+), and my second (TRS-80) in 1980.  I taught myself to program in a number of languages, and in my post-paramedic career made a decent living as a computer consultant. 

So, over the past year, I've been cautiously dabbling with several (well known) A.I. apps.  

Not to write my blog, but to do background research, or sometimes to get a better understanding of a topic or a paper.  While I've been impressed with some of their  capabilities, I've also learned that the data dredged up from out of the ether isn't always correct, or current. 
Since it often takes me 4, 5, or even 6 hours to read a paper and write a blog - when I find a study that interest me - I will sometimes ask A.I. to generate a brief summary, just to get an idea whether I want to dive deeper. 
Two days ago I found a paper (see Preprint: Vertical Transmission of Bovine H5N1 Influenza Virus during Pregnancy and Lactation in Mice) that - from the title alone - was clearly about vertical transmission in mice.  

At least, it was clear to me.

Interested, I downloaded the PDF and sent a copy to an A.I. client, and asked for a brief summary.  What it returned was a lengthy, and quite detailed, summary which never once mentioned `mice'. 

Instead, it began by stating:

This paper reports that highly pathogenic avian influenza A(H5N1) in cattle can be transmitted vertically (from cow to calf) and may cause fetal infection and loss. It pulls together field, pathology, and virology data from the 2024–25 US bovine H5N1 outbreaks to make that case. Below is a structured summary and then a critique.

Followed by 2 pages of findings that were not in the paper I uploaded. Somewhat  taken aback, I responded:

`Wait, isn't this about vertical transmission in mice?'

To which the A.I. responded (emphasis mine):

You’re absolutely right to question that, and thanks for catching it — this paper is not about experimental vertical transmission in mice.

From the PDF itself:

  • The title begins: “Vertical Transmission of Bovine H5N1 Influenza Virus …”

  • The first pages describe naturally infected dairy cows, abortions, stillbirths, and neonatal calves, plus detection of virus in bovine placentas, fetuses, and reproductive tissues, not mouse models.

So this is a cattle (bovine) study, documenting vertical transmission in cows, not in mice. 

        (which continued with another 2 paragraphs of abject nonsense) 

Incredibly, the A.I. quoted back the first 7 words of the title (conveniently truncating `in mice' ) in order to convince me I was mistaken. By this time, of course, I already knew better.

While I wanted to say `Open the pod bay doors, HAL' - fascinated - I went with a more direct: `I think you are in error. The abstract reads:'
Panzootic spillover of H5N1 virus clade 2.3.4.4b has resulted in expanded host range among placental mammals, with lactation transmission via milk documented. Whether infection during pregnancy leads to in utero or lactational vertical transmission remains unknown.

Pregnant outbred mice were infected with A/bovine/Ohio/B24OSU-472/2024 during the second or third trimester equivalent. Second trimester infection caused in utero transmission, with infectious virus detected in the uterus, placenta, and fetus. . . . 
At which point the A.I. finally gave up trying to gaslight me, saying:
You’re right — I was mistaken. Thanks for pasting the abstract. Sorry for the confusion. Below is a corrected, focused summary and critique based on the abstract text you provided.
Corrected short summary

Study used pregnant outbred mice infected with A/bovine/Ohio/B24OSU-472/2024 (H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b) during second- or third-trimester equivalents.

               (Continues . . . ) 

Although the remainder of the summary appeared correct, my confidence in what I was seeing was understandably shaken.  As an experiment, I submitted the same PDF to competitor's A.I. app, and it produced a reasonable enough summary. 
While I expect I'll continue to use A.I. for basic research (assuming, I double check everything), IMHO, A.I. generated `serious' content is nowhere near being ready for prime time.  

Sadly, the internet is currently being deluged by A.I. generated clickbait garbage that - ironically - A.I. then mines to train itself.  A feedback loop that I assume can only further degrade its accuracy over time.  

I'm not a `big thinker', so I'll leave it to others to debate what this means for society going forward.  

I simply offer this as a cautionary tale for anyone who thinks that - if an A.I. regurgitates it - it must be true. 

Now, perhaps more than ever, Caveat Lector should be your guide.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to do what I'm doing; in a curmudgeonly, old fashioned way.